(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[20/600 Canadian]
GN[Zhurakovskyi 5d vs Korolov 3d (Ukrainian Championship 2016 - semifinal)]PW[Korolov Roman]PB[Zhurakovskyi Bohdan]WR[3d]BR[5d]DT[2016-09-18]EV[Ukrainian Championship 2016 - semifinal]RO[5th round]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AN[Kachanovskyi Artem, 1 pro]C[alex666 [1k?\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syD_8qxsgRM
]RE[B+23.50]
;B[pq]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: hello everyone
UkrChamp1 [-\]: its Artem Kachanovskyi
RiFLoK [3k\]: hi
Black [9d\]: Hi
Davon [?\]: hi
UkrChamp1 [-\]: we are still waiting for Roman
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I think its going to be a fascinating game
UkrChamp1 [-\]: Bohdan likes territory 
UkrChamp1 [-\]: 3rd line
UkrChamp1 [-\]: Roman is an opposite
UkrChamp1 [-\]: likes unusual starts
UkrChamp1 [-\]: 6th line moves
Black [9d\]: It looks promising
UkrChamp1 [-\]: :)
RiFLoK [3k\]: he is on toilet?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I think he is having his lunch
UkrChamp1 [-\]: the last game finished not so long ago
RiFLoK [3k\]: the time is running now?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes
UkrChamp1 [-\]: already 15 minutes 
Black [9d\]: he's confident o:
UkrChamp1 [-\]: ))
UkrChamp1 [-\]: actually among ukrainian players he is famous for his provocative style
UkrChamp1 [-\]: once he played a mirror Go against me
Black [9d\]: wow lol
UkrChamp1 [-\]: he likes what we call "tsumego festival"
UkrChamp1 [-\]: when the game gets super complicated
UkrChamp1 [-\]: he is here finally
UkrChamp1 [-\]: there is a time penalty
UkrChamp1 [-\]: so Roman has around 25 minutes left
RiFLoK [3k\]: time penalty?
]
;W[jo]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes
UkrChamp1 [-\]: if you are late more than 15 minutes
]
;B[pd]
;W[oj]C[Black [9d\]: Oh :)
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;B[po]
;W[je]C[Black [9d\]: Promising fuseki :p
]
;B[cd]
;W[ej]C[YoungPro [6d\]: wth ^^ 
]
;B[dp]
;W[qc]C[FUZxxl [6k\]: someone likes Shin-Fuseki
bert [?\]: k10 is needed
UkrChamp1 [-\]: tsumego festival starting
kittjn [1d\]: k10 not needed
]
;B[qd]
;W[pc]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: we reviewed this position yesterday
bert [?\]: without k19 it is like empty ponnuki
YoungPro [6d\]: and?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and came to conclusion that P17 is not very promising for blak
bert [?\]: k10*
UkrChamp1 [-\]: because white can just cut
YoungPro [6d\]: and cut is fine?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: so I'd suggest P16
UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes, I think cut is fine
UkrChamp1 [-\]: is complicated though
]
;B[oc]
;W[od]C[kittjn [1d\]: lol
UkrChamp1 [-\]: not sure if Bohdan was with us when we were reviewing ;)
YoungPro [6d\]: :D
Black [9d\]: haha
YoungPro [6d\]: p18 now no?
]
;B[nc]C[kittjn [1d\]: y
kittjn [1d\]: oh
YoungPro [6d\]: hmm
]
;W[rd]C[kittjn [1d\]: intersting
Black [9d\]: also possible
YoungPro [6d\]: oh
]
;B[re]
;W[rc]
;B[qf]C[YoungPro [6d\]: this is funny
weiqidevil [-\]: is s17 instead of o17 bad for black?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: for white I'd prefer K15 and the other stone to be 1 space lower
]
;W[oe]C[YoungPro [6d\]: :D
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(;B[pf]
;W[ob]C[kittjn [1d\]: )
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;B[nb]
;W[pa]C[YoungPro [6d\]: but why b played
YoungPro [6d\]: i dont understand
UkrChamp1 [-\]: Q14 is questinable
YoungPro [6d\]: yes why q14
YoungPro [6d\]: q18 looked fine
UkrChamp1 [-\]: if black started a semeai with the corner it would be some ko, if I am not wrong
YoungPro [6d\]: can we check?
]
(;B[jc]C[VitalX [1d?\]: looks very worthless
]
;W[me]C[piite: how strong are you UkrCHamp?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: not very strong
]
;B[ng]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: instead of this I'd jump on the side
UkrChamp1 [-\]: but an attempt to break into the center is also understandable
]
;W[qj]C[piite: Black[9d\]:  do you think b could p18 instead of q14 and attack the corner?
kittjn [1d\]: but now its fight
UkrChamp1 [-\]: no, P18 was worse
Black [9d\]: yes
UkrChamp1 [-\]: Q18 would give a big eye
]
;B[lg]C[VitalX [1d?\]: is w lost already?
Black [9d\]: but instead of k17, i wanted n15 black
UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes, I think white is already bad
UkrChamp1 [-\]: N15 is so-so, cuttable
UkrChamp1 [-\]: now white has a shape problem
]
;W[ld]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: Q19 was not very good by the way
UkrChamp1 [-\]: O19 is sente for black like this
]
;B[lc]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: anyone wants to see, or is it clear?
dixxa: please show
dixxa: ah, so desu ka ne. Thanks
]
(;W[qm]C[Black [9d\]: seems hard for w 
]
;B[na]
;W[om]
;B[pb]
;W[qb]
;B[ra]C[piite: w has local problems also
UkrChamp1 [-\]: like this white dies
UkrChamp1 [-\]: so O19 is sente
])
(;W[ic]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: this is the actual game
]
;B[ib]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: black is doing fine, I think
UkrChamp1 [-\]: the fact that white has to think about protecting the 5th line stone is a success
]
;W[jd]
;B[kc]
;W[hc]C[Black [9d\]: np for b, w can push 
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;B[hb]C[piite: it seems like black managed to break w´s center formation too early
]
;W[fc]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: but of course, white is still in a game
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;B[dh]C[piite: hard to think how f10 and k5 would be useful
UkrChamp1 [-\]: this long jump..
piite: e10*
UkrChamp1 [-\]: is a little thin, I think
]
;W[cj]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: I'd choose more modest D14 probably
UkrChamp1 [-\]: E16 now looks like a shape
UkrChamp1 [-\]: maybe white eants C3 again :)
]
;B[ci]
;W[bj]
;B[fh]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: this is good for black too
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I think B10 was too passive
UkrChamp1 [-\]: center is so important
]
;W[fq]
;B[cn]
;W[cq]
;B[dq]
;W[dr]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: K15 group now is getting sad
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;B[er]
;W[cr]
;B[eq]
;W[bo]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: instead of B10, E12 would care more about the center
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;B[dk]
;W[dj]
;B[fp]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: D9 I think was not necessary
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;W[cc]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: white wants to complicate, obviously
dixxa: they seem to play rather fast ...
UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes
UkrChamp1 [-\]: both used around 10 minues
UkrChamp1 [-\]: for Roman its easy to understand
piite: w need to fight to catch up a little 
UkrChamp1 [-\]: time penalty
piite: needs
UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes
UkrChamp1 [-\]: C17 is good
UkrChamp1 [-\]: might give a base to white's group
Black [9d\]: become difficult for w, with his k15 group, not very productive finally, he have to do something
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and use black's thinness in that area
UkrChamp1 [-\]: K15 is a burden, yes
Nectaris [1k\]: hallo
UkrChamp1 [-\]: the center got broken too easily
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;B[bc]
;W[dc]
;B[be]
;W[co]
;B[do]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: black keeps simplifying
UkrChamp1 [-\]: which I think is correct
]
;W[dn]
;B[en]
;W[dm]
;B[em]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: many nice place for black now
UkrChamp1 [-\]: K3, R8
Black [9d\]: true
liusasori [3d\]: r8 seems more important
UkrChamp1 [-\]: H15 in future maybe
liusasori [3d\]: w r7 settle easily
UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes, R8 is very nice
liusasori [3d\]: while w k3 doesn't settel directly
kittjn [1d\]: ws position is hard
UkrChamp1 [-\]: it is, but still playable
UkrChamp1 [-\]: w has some cash too
liusasori [3d\]: not many if w tenuki here
UkrChamp1 [-\]: :)
UkrChamp1 [-\]: sure, no matter what, w has to answer here
kittjn [1d\]: d10 can cut if not
kittjn [1d\]: ya?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: otherwise a C10 stick will be under attack
UkrChamp1 [-\]: D8?
Black [9d\]: if he answer, b can take important place in the other side
UkrChamp1 [-\]: but if he won't, he will suffer so much here
Black [9d\]: sure
FUZxxl [6k\]: what do their clocks say
liusasori [3d\]: but if r10 is stronger due to r7 then b p14 group is weaker to attack k15 group
UkrChamp1 [-\]: 13 minues for white
Chilltime [2d?\]: they say what time it is
UkrChamp1 [-\]: 47 for black :)
FUZxxl [6k\]: white will fall from his hybris
UkrChamp1 [-\]: never play D9
UkrChamp1 [-\]: as we see now, it doesn't really help
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;W[dl]
;B[he]C[kittjn [1d\]: lol
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;W[hd]
;B[ie]C[liusasori [3d\]: w has problems everywhere
UkrChamp1 [-\]: ok, this is now a little vulgar by black
]
;W[id]
;B[ig]C[dixxa: What did black achieve here ??
UkrChamp1 [-\]: white needs to cut
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I think black wants to connect the 2 groups
]
;W[ee]C[liusasori [3d\]: black almost surrounded a weak group which is nice dixxa
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and completely cut the center like that
UkrChamp1 [-\]: instead of J15, K13 would be a more shape move
UkrChamp1 [-\]: with K13 white was able to cut now
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and maybe get some fight in the center
liusasori [3d\]: r8 seems so powerful now
piite: if b plays r8 game is over
piite: idk if he can now
UkrChamp1 [-\]: K14 is tempting for me
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I'd want to connect all
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and that white group is not so safe anyway
liusasori [3d\]: k14 is slow imo
dixxa: would'nt it be gote'ish ?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: after G18, for example
UkrChamp1 [-\]: it's gote, but gives thickness
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and doesn't let white cut with K13
liusasori [3d\]: I'd like to r8 first then shape at k14
dixxa: ok
]
;B[gb]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: now is white's chance
UkrChamp1 [-\]: to cut
UkrChamp1 [-\]: let me show
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(;W[jg]
;B[jh]
;W[kg]
;B[kh]
;W[ih]LB[eg:C][hg:A][lh:B]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: likethis
richilue [3k\]: doesnt leaving K14 for w allow b to escape into center attacking R10?
midorisuke [5d\]: l15 now?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: there is some chance
liusasori [3d\]: b need r8 here to make a shpe arround m12 effective
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;B[ke]
;W[if]C[Eliza [3k\]: it's interesting to have the commentary at the same time... Thanks, UkrChamp
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I don't know, its probably some chance at least
])
(;W[ge]
;B[gf]C[Eliza [3k\]: ...but don't get too distracted!
UkrChamp1 [-\]: anyway, they played this
UkrChamp1 [-\]: which makes things worse for white
liusasori [3d\]: b is stronger and stronger in the center
piite: w made some poor decisions
UkrChamp1 [-\]: w needs some cuts now
piite: he did not take advantage of his stones properly
UkrChamp1 [-\]: otherwise the game is lost
]
;W[cf]C[Black [9d\]: time for do something good with this big group
]
;B[cg]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: seems like a prepared answer
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;W[eg]C[alex666 [1k?\]: i recall that UkrChamp1 is Artem Kachanovskyi 1p :)
UkrChamp1 [-\]: D14 is possible I think
UkrChamp1 [-\]: both protection and preparing a cut
liusasori [3d\]: this is artem commenting ? great :) :) :) !!
Black [9d\]: yes
Eliza [3k\]: and recording the moves at the same time?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes
Eliza [3k\]: even more impressive
UkrChamp1 [-\]: this is a preliminary for Ukrainian Championship final
UkrChamp1 [-\]: as I'm there already, I don't have to play in this tournament
liusasori [3d\]: and what about Andrij Kravets ?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: he is there too
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and Dmytro Bogatskyi
Black [9d\]: really ? 
UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes
UkrChamp1 [-\]: 3 of us
Black [9d\]: they plays ? 
UkrChamp1 [-\]: 1 player qualifies as the winner of another tournament
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and 4 people from this tournament
UkrChamp1 [-\]: Volodymyr Kokozei won his last game and thus won all his games in this tournament
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and is the first qualified to the final
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;B[df]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: me, Andriy and Dmytro Bogatskiy were 3 first places in the final last year
UkrChamp1 [-\]: so we don't need to qualify again
Black [9d\]: Oh great :)
UkrChamp1 [-\]: so its like we have a few stages championship
Eliza [3k\]: and you have the chance to observe your future opponents' playing styles
UkrChamp1 [-\]: sure :)
Eliza [3k\]: heheheh
piite: i dont think this crazy opening will be played again hahaha
UkrChamp1 [-\]: well, he played likes in at least 1 more game
conejito [8k\]: is white Yashiro ? :D
piite: really?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes
piite: and did it work for him?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes, but a little luckily
piite: i see
gogonuts [3d?\]: b o17 instead of p18 was too soft - bs position got funny for a moment. but now w seems to have almost lost
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;W[dg]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes
UkrChamp1 [-\]: but was better not to get cutted at all )
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I think so, at least
gogonuts [3d?\]: you mean just extend?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes
UkrChamp1 [-\]: then 5th line stones are wasted
]
;B[eh]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: white is in a heavy fight, I think
gogonuts [3d?\]: will have to work hard for life and can forget about counter-attacking
UkrChamp1 [-\]: let me show what I think is the most promising for white
Zonked [3d\]: but b should be happy, even if b outside position is strengthened, if w lives in gote?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: sure
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(;W[bg]
;B[ch]
;W[bf]
;B[de]
;W[dd]
;B[ce]
;W[ef]
;B[bh]
;W[ae]
;B[bd]
;W[bb]
;B[ag]
;W[ac]
;B[af]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: maybe like this white can even get a sente
])
(;W[pe]C[Zonked [3d\]: can b fight the ko?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: this is the actual game
gogonuts [3d?\]: i just wanted to ask :-)
UkrChamp1 [-\]: to fight the ko in answer to B13?
Zonked [3d\]: ya
UkrChamp1 [-\]: risky, isn't it?
Zonked [3d\]: seems like w has a lot more to lose?
gogonuts [3d?\]: way too risky
Black [9d\]: w doesn't have my options..
gogonuts [3d?\]: shifting the w problem to b
zurco: На інших досках хтось грає?
Black [9d\]: many*
]
;B[qe]
;W[lf]C[gogonuts [3d?\]: m14 for L13 is pretty awful
UkrChamp1 [-\]: zurco: грають ще 3 партію. Юра грає з Яценком
piite: i actually like the sequence of b13 with w ending in sente
UkrChamp1 [-\]: M14 is very painful for white
UkrChamp1 [-\]: to strengthen black like this..
]
(;B[mg]
;W[de]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: this is the actual game
midorisuke [5d\]: can b tenuki?
midorisuke [5d\]: i kind of want r8 now
UkrChamp1 [-\]: come on, B14 is so big now :)
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and white will answer
Zonked [3d\]: surely b14 is sente..
piite: b14 then r8
Black [9d\]: surely not tenuki 
]
;B[bf]C[midorisuke [5d\]: ah, ok
Blondin [4k\]: r8 bigger than b13?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: no :)
gogonuts [3d?\]: right, answering m14 at L13 is how I like to ruin good games :-)
Zonked [3d\]: would b m5 be unreasonable as b next move?
Blondin [4k\]: ok, thx
UkrChamp1 [-\]: because if white get B14, white can cut in the center then
UkrChamp1 [-\]: K13 is still there
UkrChamp1 [-\]: so B14 is important for safety too, not just big
piite: w should have played b13 definitely
gogonuts [3d?\]: your sequence was better than this
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I think so
]
;W[jg]
;B[jh]
;W[kg]C[Zonked [3d\]: oh, w still insist on cut
]
;B[kh]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: this looks like suffering
Blondin [4k\]: and now j12?
Zonked [3d\]: or just rtying to get sente life?
piite: not really good now after the m14 exchange
UkrChamp1 [-\]: let me show you one variant
]
;W[ih]C[gogonuts [3d?\]: ah, just a variant, phew :-)
UkrChamp1 [-\]: this is the actual game :)
Blondin [4k\]: lol
Zonked [3d\]: b n10 here?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: no, there is no need :)
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I just showed a variant
UkrChamp1 [-\]: white collapses in it
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;B[hg]C[Blondin [4k\]: my god the south and east are so open!! the game is not over.....
Zonked [3d\]: sure, but why is j13 stone important?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: because black can still torture white's group
]
;W[lh]
;B[li]C[piite: w hurt himself in this fight
UkrChamp1 [-\]: this is the actual game :)
liusasori [3d\]: lol
gogonuts [3d?\]: good grief
]
(;W[mh]
;B[ni]
;W[ki]
;B[ji]
;W[mi]
;B[mj]C[gogonuts [3d?\]: oh no
]
;W[lj]
;B[nh]
;W[li]
;B[lk])
(;W[oh]C[Blondin [4k\]: now ......n12 n11 p11 ?
gogonuts [3d?\]: tricky
Blondin [4k\]: O.o    doubla aji... cut or connect..
UkrChamp1 [-\]: black can sacrifice that part, I think
]
(;B[ni]C[Zonked [3d\]: but w group is a bit more stable?
]
(;W[og]
;B[of]
;W[nf]
;B[oi]
;W[qh]
;B[pi]
;W[qg]
;B[qi]
;W[ri]
;B[rj]
;W[rh]
;B[qk]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: like this
])
(;W[of]
;B[og]
;W[pg]
;B[ph]
;W[qg]
;B[qh]
;W[rg]
;B[rh]
;W[rf]
;B[oi]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: like this is even better
Zonked [3d\]: what if w just takes shape with r12?
])
(;W[qh]
;B[of]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: the there is no cut
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and no problem
GoFree1 [5d\]: better tenuki then this
]))
(;B[of]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: just a bit )
Blondin [4k\]: with r7 w might be settle but.... too small
gogonuts [3d?\]: p14 played?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I think black doesn't really want to sacrifice
UkrChamp1 [-\]: or maybe they do, lets see
Adriano [-\]: blacks aiming for l14
UkrChamp1 [-\]: by theway w is in a byo-yomi already
]
(;W[hh]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: let me show you something
gogonuts [3d?\]: if w o14, b n14 right away
UkrChamp1 [-\]: oh
UkrChamp1 [-\]: really
UkrChamp1 [-\]: then no chance to cut at all
UkrChamp1 [-\]: Bohdan still has half an hour of the main time
]
;B[mh]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: wow
UkrChamp1 [-\]: this was safe
UkrChamp1 [-\]: now let white do something around G13, and R8
]
;W[gg]
;B[gh]C[gogonuts [3d?\]: w only gets h15 stones
]
;W[if]
;B[fg]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes
UkrChamp1 [-\]: big group protected :)
]
;W[hf]
;B[gg]C[kittjn [1d\]: r7
]
;W[gp]
;B[gq]C[piite: n12 was the best option?
]
;W[hq]
;B[fr]C[piite: what do you guys think
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I don't think so
]
;W[gr]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: but maybe the most 100% safe 
gogonuts [3d?\]: n12 was a little bit of a shame
]
;B[hr]
;W[fq]
;B[el]
;W[ek]
;B[gq]C[gogonuts [3d?\]: with this sente w can hope
]
;W[gs]C[bert [?\]: this g3 fight looks delusional
T2KGS [1d\]: these moves in real game ?
]
;B[hp]
;W[fq]
;B[cl]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes, actual game
T2KGS [1d\]: so fast here
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I see only B13 as a ko threat for white
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and its damaging
UkrChamp1 [-\]: maybe O14 too
]
;W[ck]
;B[gq]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: white can't give up those 3 stones
]
;W[nf]
;B[og]
;W[fq]
;B[cm]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: at least 2 more threats for black here
UkrChamp1 [-\]: push and cut
Zonked [3d\]: wut.. I stepped away for a second, and w has begun what looks like an absurd ko..
UkrChamp1 [-\]: :)
RiFLoK [3k\]: white cant win this ko
hav4ik [1k?\]: white is thinking about giving up the territory on the left? :-??
UkrChamp1 [-\]: maybe just making a plan
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I don't think giving up 3 stone is possible
gogonuts [3d?\]: on the fly :-)
Blondin [4k\]: black ko threat :c4 r8 l15 ????
]
;W[dk]
;B[gq]C[Zonked [3d\]: w can still somehow manage if he extends at j3? but if b captures h3 its super bad?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: about R8 and L15 I am not sure
]
;W[bg]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes, white can manage if he extends
UkrChamp1 [-\]: but thats too bad already
gogonuts [3d?\]: instead of all this, starting with g4, I think w r7 was proper
]
;B[ef]
;W[fq]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: sure
]
;B[cp]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: now is a small chance to ignore
]
;W[bp]
;B[gq]
;W[ce]C[Zonked [3d\]: ignore?
T2KGS [1d\]: ignore
UkrChamp1 [-\]: maybe
Zonked [3d\]: why is this a threat?
kittjn [1d\]: b12
piite: b12
Zonked [3d\]: but.. corner isnt dead, is it?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: lets see a variant
hav4ik [1k?\]: can white really win this ko? black still can squeeze a lot of ko threads from white's top right 
GoFree1 [5d\]: I wouldn't ignore
UkrChamp1 [-\]: this will not be the actual game :)
Pingu007 [2d\]: but c18 for living isnt it?
gogonuts [3d?\]: because saving b13 makes miai
UkrChamp1 [-\]: but this is what we have for now :)
gogonuts [3d?\]: so b J3 looks like a winner
]
;B[iq]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: lets say black ignores
]
;W[bh]
;B[bi]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: the actual game
adrien440 [?\]: good luck
gogonuts [3d?\]: b found the moves
Zonked [3d\]: could b delay the corner life, arguing that tenuki is bigger?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I think so, yes
]
(;W[ai]
;B[ah]
;W[ag]
;B[ch]
;W[aj]
;B[af]
;W[ah]
;B[bb]
;W[hj]
;B[gj]
;W[gk]
;B[fj]
;W[fk]
;B[ij]
;W[hi]
;B[hk]
;W[ik]
;B[hl]
;W[jj]
;B[gi]
;W[ii]
;B[ji]
;W[ij]
;B[ei]C[gogonuts [3d?\]: nice
UkrChamp1 [-\]: black alive everywhere
gogonuts [3d?\]: not miai :-)
])
(;W[ch]C[gogonuts [3d?\]: oh no
]
(;B[ag]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: here white can't play atari
UkrChamp1 [-\]: because black connects like this
])
(;B[ah]
;W[dg]
;B[ag]
;W[cg]C[Potemkine [2k\]: wait did white atari?
]
;B[di]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes
UkrChamp1 [-\]: its the actual game
Potemkine [2k\]: wow
gogonuts [3d?\]: this is hopeless
Potemkine [2k\]: that's terrible
Potemkine [2k\]: resign
Zonked [3d\]: w trying to kill it all
Potemkine [2k\]: out of shame
Gotika [4d\]: resign
]
;W[hj]
;B[gj]C[bert [?\]: w hopes he can kill the whole dragon
gogonuts [3d?\]: lol, potemkine
hav4ik [1k?\]: painful +_+ 
]
;W[gk]C[Potemkine [2k\]: sorry but it's true :D
UkrChamp1 [-\]: he played a move and took it back
]
;B[fj]C[Potemkine [2k\]: when you play ko threats like this..
Potemkine [2k\]: R7 would have been better
GoFree1 [5d\]: why should w resign
Potemkine [2k\]: or anything else for that matter
UkrChamp1 [-\]: still here
gogonuts [3d?\]: it was actually on the board?
Zonked [3d\]: u mean, was about to play a move?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: ))
]
;W[fk]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes, but he kept it with his hand
Etienne [3d?\]: h8 wasnt better?
gogonuts [3d?\]: ahem
UkrChamp1 [-\]: J10 now is easy
UkrChamp1 [-\]: let me show
UkrChamp1 [-\]: with those 3 ponnukies on the board..
UkrChamp1 [-\]: the fight is not going to be promising for white
Zonked [3d\]: j10 and the followup moves are a nice tesuji, worth remembering, would have missed it myself in a game
UkrChamp1 [-\]: even just G11 is enought now
]
(;B[ij]
;W[hi]
;B[hk]
;W[ik]
;B[hl]
;W[jj]
(;B[ii])
(;B[gi]C[Potemkine [2k\]: not like his 3 stones on the right are looking particularly good
]
;W[ii]
;B[ji]
;W[ij]
(;B[il]
;W[kj])
(;B[cb]
;W[db]
;B[ca]LB[ab:A][ei:B]C[Potemkine [2k\]: white is going to end up dying everywhere he's so greedy
Zonked [3d\]: b b should fight before making life?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: black can live easy
])))
(;B[kf]C[bert [?\]: hasamitsuke tesuji
Zonked [3d\]: timesuji?
]
;W[jf]
;B[cb]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: black still has 20 minutes of the main time left
UkrChamp1 [-\]: probably just doesn't see the hasamitsuke
]
;W[db]
;B[ca]C[bert [?\]: j9 
UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes
UkrChamp1 [-\]: the only move
UkrChamp1 [-\]: or R7 ;)
Zonked [3d\]: its not sente against b dragon tho, because d19 connection under
UkrChamp1 [-\]: oh
kittjn [1d\]: what you think about this fuseki, Artem?
]
;W[af]
(;B[ae]C[kittjn [1d\]: do*
UkrChamp1 [-\]: nice point, Zonked
UkrChamp1 [-\]: this fuseki is interesting
UkrChamp1 [-\]: but white wasn't able to use those stones
]
;W[bd]
;B[ab]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: or it wasn't 
UkrChamp1 [-\]: black can play like this
]
;W[dd]
;B[ad]
;W[ba]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: but this is ko too
])
(;B[ai]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: black answere here
UkrChamp1 [-\]: so J9 is not really the only move now
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and R7 is honte actually
UkrChamp1 [-\]: but this is hopeless
]
;W[bd]
;B[ad]
;W[dd]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: A11 was too much
UkrChamp1 [-\]: now there is some ko in the corner
UkrChamp1 [-\]: but seems like it was there anyway, so its fine
]
;B[bd]
;W[ab]
;B[bb]
;W[da]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: the actual game
YoungPro [6d\]: to me b is fine
Etienne [3d?\]: h11
YoungPro [6d\]: its quite alive
kittjn [1d\]: but j10 is still work
UkrChamp1 [-\]: sure b is fine
UkrChamp1 [-\]: especially if he lays J10
Zonked [3d\]: b did lose sente with a11 tho
UkrChamp1 [-\]: not really, white would play elsewhere anyway
Zonked [3d\]: ah, ok
]
;B[gi]
;W[ij]
;B[ei]
;W[lk]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: white keeps attacking :))
]
;B[qm]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: seems like b is very sure he can survive
]
;W[qh]
;B[kk]
;W[kj]
;B[lj]C[Zonked [3d\]: plenty of ugly ways to live :)
UkrChamp1 [-\]: 0
UkrChamp1 [-\]: )
UkrChamp1 [-\]: actually not so easy to seal black in
UkrChamp1 [-\]: let me show a variant
lazarus [-\]: Cool
]
;W[mk]
;B[jj]
;W[jk]
;B[ki]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: the actual game
]
;W[kl]
(;B[hi]
;W[ii]
;B[ik]
;W[kj]
;B[hk]C[T2KGS [1d\]: I think M9 BAD
])
(;B[ii]
;W[kj]
;B[hi]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: finally black connected all
alex666 [1k?\]: q2 
Zonked [3d\]: w r3?
alex666 [1k?\]: ?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes, some try in that corner, I think
UkrChamp1 [-\]: no other places with points
UkrChamp1 [-\]: S5 maybe
UkrChamp1 [-\]: anyway, its hard to do something there
bert [?\]: it is either big corner or big bottom for b
UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes
Zonked [3d\]: looks like w has gained alot after the fiasco with the h3 ko
UkrChamp1 [-\]: or both
UkrChamp1 [-\]: b was too optimistic, sure
Zonked [3d\]: sitaution could be much worse
]
;W[kq]
;B[mq]C[Zonked [3d\]: tho l3 looks soft..
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I counted 35 points white
UkrChamp1 [-\]: 60 points black
UkrChamp1 [-\]: plus potentioal
kit: to me b is aroun 50
]
;W[qq]
;B[qp]
;W[pr]
;B[qr]
;W[oq]
;B[rq]C[kit: o4?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: white can try to make some points in the central area
Zonked [3d\]: was r4 mandatory?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: difficult to say, but its safe
UkrChamp1 [-\]: Q2 would have been better, I think
]
;W[op]
;B[no]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: now there will be no center for white
]
;W[oo]
;B[on]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: N4 M3, I think
]
;W[mp]C[Zonked [3d\]: instead of p5, play o2 n2 m2 n1 o4 n4 n5 o6 m4?
]
;B[np]
;W[mr]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: white wouldn't win a semeai like that, if I am not wrong
]
;B[nq]
;W[nr]
;B[mn]
;W[lq]
;B[jr]C[Zonked [3d\]: I thought it was ko..
]
;W[nm]
;B[nn]C[Zonked [3d\]: couldnt atleast find  way to avoid the ko
UkrChamp1 [-\]: its not
]
;W[rm]
;B[kr]
;W[lr]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: black could just connect at R1
UkrChamp1 [-\]: instead of playing the ko
UkrChamp1 [-\]: Q1 P1 R1
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and still win the semeai
Zonked [3d\]: ah, right
Zonked [3d\]: thx
UkrChamp1 [-\]: K4 now would be strong, I think
UkrChamp1 [-\]: R8 is safety
]
;B[rl]C[Lawninja [7k\]: L6 K6 K4 ?
kit: r8
UkrChamp1 [-\]: L6 L5
]
;W[ql]
;B[pl]C[Lawninja [7k\]: ok so white would make eyes
UkrChamp1 [-\]: right
kit: bs corner looks like 8 pt
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and with K4 black can gain some points
]
;W[qk]
;B[rn]
;W[pm]
;B[qn]
;W[om]
;B[mm]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: black could just take off a stone
UkrChamp1 [-\]: but its ok
]
;W[nl]
;B[pn]
;W[lo]
;B[ra]C[kit:  wnot seems so behind
]
;W[rb]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes, he reduced the gap
]
;B[mf]
;W[md]
;B[le]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: but is still behin
]
;W[kd]
;B[fb]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: from 5 to 10 points difference, I think
KurataKun [3d\]: Isn't Kravets playing?
]
;W[gc]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: he doesn't need
UkrChamp1 [-\]: he is already qualified to the final
UkrChamp1 [-\]: its a preliminary
KurataKun [3d\]: and artem is also at the finals?
]
;B[hm]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes
KurataKun [3d\]: oh so how many people on the finals?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: 3 from the top of last year
UkrChamp1 [-\]: 1 as the winner of another tournament
UkrChamp1 [-\]: 4 from this tournament
UkrChamp1 [-\]: 8 people in total
]
;W[na]
;B[mb]C[KurataKun [3d\]: Bohdan wasn't top 3 last year?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: wasn't
KurataKun [3d\]: artem>kravits>bohdan?
]
;W[gm]C[alex666 [1k?\]: UkrChamp1 [-\]: hello everyone UkrChamp1 [-\]: its Artem Kachanovskyi
]
;B[aj]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: first was Andriy, then Dmytro Bogatskiy, then Artem Kachanovskyi
]
;W[ak]
;B[gn]
;W[hl]
;B[im]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: L6 problem now
KurataKun [3d\]: Andrey is a beast :p
]
;W[il]C[KurataKun [3d\]: when is the finals?
]
;B[jm]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: in December
KurataKun [3d\]: so far?
KurataKun [3d\]: :(
UkrChamp1 [-\]: its a few stages championship
]
;W[ln]C[Black [9d\]: Dmytro is good too, interestings future games :)
UkrChamp1 [-\]: if black cuts now, its over
UkrChamp1 [-\]: N8 is sente
SuperAwe [16k\]: hi
]
;B[ps]C[KurataKun [3d\]: lol does b not see it?
kit: is game between dmitriy and yuriy ended? 
UkrChamp1 [-\]: no, still playing
UkrChamp1 [-\]: yes, I think b doesn't see
UkrChamp1 [-\]: happens when you have byo-yomi
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and white does
KurataKun [3d\]: oh maybe he just wants to make sure w has no two eyes
KurataKun [3d\]: or something
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I think he didnt see he can play M1
UkrChamp1 [-\]: and wants to make things safe
bert [?\]: taking q1 first is correct, imo
]
;W[os]
;B[or]
;W[hn]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: black could take out an eye using M1 move
]
;B[in]
;W[pr]C[bert [?\]: right
]
;B[bl]C[Zonked [3d\]: b8 minor mistake?
Zonked [3d\]: should be b9?
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I think so, yes
bert [?\]: nah
UkrChamp1 [-\]: can't ignore, thats too big
Zonked [3d\]: bert, if play b9, you have 1 more ko threat for smaller ko
]
;W[qs]
;B[bk]
;W[rr]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: B6 is big now
]
;B[bn]
;W[qq]
;B[rp]
;W[fn]
;B[ho]C[hav4ik [1k?\]: is the game over? or it is still the game?
]
;W[fm]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: still a game
]
;B[ao]
;W[aq]
;B[bs]
;W[br]
;B[an]C[Zonked [3d\]: man this hurts
Zonked [3d\]: b4 stones dead
hav4ik [1k?\]: ko O.O 
Zonked [3d\]: w dont have to play ko
Zonked [3d\]: can just sacrifice the 3 stones
]
;W[as]
;B[ap]
;W[cs]
;B[bq]
;W[bp]C[hav4ik [1k?\]: what is the count now? 
]
;B[eo]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: white far behind
]
;W[rk]
;B[sm]
;W[pp]
;B[fl]
;W[gl]
;B[kk]
;W[jl]
;B[rg]
;W[fo]C[Zonked [3d\]: l9 weird..
]
;B[go]
;W[fa]
;B[ga]
;W[rh]
;B[ma]
;W[qa]C[Zonked [3d\]: q18...
hauru [7k\]: Q1q8.
]
;B[pb]
;W[sa]
;B[oa]C[Black [9d\]: this really hurt 
]
;W[sq]
;B[sp]
;W[sr]C[Zonked [3d\]: bottom right might actually be whites biggest territory
Zonked [3d\]: who would have imagined
]
;B[ni]
;W[oi]
;B[nj]
;W[nk]
;B[bo]
;W[bq]
;B[eb]
;W[ea]
;B[ec]
;W[ed]
;B[ne]
;W[nd]C[Zonked [3d\]: t10?
]
;B[kj]
;W[mj]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: T10 doesnt really gain much
]
;B[sh]C[Black [9d\]: not needed
]
;W[si]
;B[sg]
;W[mi]
;B[nh]
;W[se]
;B[sf]
;W[sd]
;B[qg]
;W[sk]
(;B[ph]
;W[sl]
;B[rm]
;W[qi]
;B[ls]
;W[ms]
;B[ks]
;W[qb]C[piite: thank you for the comments Artem
]
;B[ob]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: you are welcome
UkrChamp1 [-\]: lets see how it ends
UkrChamp1 [-\]: anything can still happen
]
;W[ka]
;B[kb]C[piite: haha
]
;W[es]
;B[fs]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: if black gave an atari at S11, would have been an improvement
]
;W[lm]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: a cut at at P9 then would be possible
]
;B[ml]
;W[ll]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: let me show
]
;B[jp]
;W[kp]
;B[io]
;W[jq]
;B[ip]C[WinPoohM [1k\]: Who plays?
YoungPro [6d\]: but b win by huge anyway
]
;W[jn]
;B[kn]
;W[ko]
;B[km]
;W[mo]C[Black [9d\]: true, Yp
]
;B[fe]
;W[fd]
;B[ff]
;W[pi]
;B[nf]
;W[pg]
;B[ds]
;W[ke]
;B[lf]
;W[mc]
;B[es]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: b doesn't get cheated
]
;W[ph]
;B[eg]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: pass pass, counting
UkrChamp1 [-\]: b + 23.5
Black [9d\]: Thanks for relaying & gg ! :)
UkrChamp1 [-\]: thanks for watching
alex666 [1k?\]: thanks
])
(;B[ri]
;W[sj]
;B[ph]
;W[qi]
;B[ll]
;W[km]
;B[rm]
;W[sl]
;B[pi]
;W[pj]
;B[ok])))))))
(;W[nf]
;B[og]
;W[mh]
;B[mf]
;W[md]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: this move saves white here
]))))
(;B[kg]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: by the way, this was not advicable
]
;W[og]
;B[of]
;W[nf]
;B[oh]
;W[mg]C[zurco: дякую
])))))
(;B[me]
;W[nf]
;B[mf]
;W[ng]C[UkrChamp1 [-\]: not sure if this is good
UkrChamp1 [-\]: looks like playing against your own group
piite: this seems better for w
piite: than game
UkrChamp1 [-\]: but anyway, what is important, I think black shouldn't let white cut them
Black [9d\]: Sure
UkrChamp1 [-\]: then those 5th line moves would be useless
]))
(;B[pb]
;W[qb]
;B[ob]
;W[pf]
;B[qe]
;W[qg]
;B[rg]
;W[qh]
;B[rh]
;W[ri]C[weiqidevil [-\]: won't artem give a commentary?
]
;B[sd]C[Black [9d\]: q14 not seems bad for me
UkrChamp1 [-\]: I am trying to
YoungPro [6d\]: :D
UkrChamp1 [-\]: something like this
]
(;W[se])
(;W[sf]
;B[sb]C[YoungPro [6d\]: but
UkrChamp1 [-\]: anyway, this is complicated but I think its ko
UkrChamp1 [-\]: lets better see the game
])))