(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[4500]OT[3x45 byo-yomi]
GN[Alexandr Dinerstein 3p - Lisy Pavol 1p]PW[Alexandr Dinerstein]PB[Lisy Pavol ]WR[3p]BR[1p]DT[2017-02-08]EV[The 2nd Eoropean Professional Go Championship ]RO[2]PC[Azimut Hotel, St. Petersburg]C[eyeproblem [2k\]: yo
]
;B[pq]
;W[qo]
;B[qk]
;W[op]
;B[oq]
;W[qq]C[YoungPro [-\]: yoha
YoungPro [-\]: r3 is quite rare
YoungPro [-\]: I thought its good for b usually
YoungPro [-\]: o4 r4 l3 
blackhawk [1d\]: o4 proper answer?
YoungPro [-\]: yes
]
;B[pp]
;W[qp]
;B[po]
;W[pn]
;B[on]
;W[pm]
;B[rm]
;W[rn]
;B[qm]
;W[qn]
(;B[qi]
;W[dq]C[YoungPro [-\]: this was unexpected hmm
YoungPro [-\]: looks good for w
]
;B[gq]C[blackhawk [1d\]: why? coz w got sente?
unknown007 [5k\]: coz b left not yet alive and b split in 2 grps 
unknown007 [5k\]: w is alive, out and sente 
]
;W[co]C[unknown007 [5k\]: ?
unknown007 [5k\]: :)
]
;B[jp]C[YoungPro [-\]: well theoretically later there is ko at r2, so its not completely alive
YoungPro [-\]: but yeah I liked that white got sente and p3 still not completely strong
]
;W[ec])
(;B[qh]C[blackhawk [1d\]: lol
unknown007 [5k\]: blonde girl again?
unknown007 [5k\]: :)
blackhawk [1d\]: r11 seemed a bit too slow
Tako [?\]: blonde girl ?
]
;W[dq]C[YoungPro [-\]: whats the problem with blonde girls ^_^
HappyLook [5d\]: another cool opening
]
;B[gq]
;W[co]
;B[jp]
;W[ec]
;B[cd]C[eyeproblem [2k\]: brunettes more fun
]
;W[df]C[unknown007 [5k\]: during EGC, polymetal hired some blond girls to broadcast games, and they had many misclicks 
]
;B[ed]C[eyeproblem [2k\]: they were playing with other buttons i gues?
]
;W[dd]
;B[de]
;W[dc]C[Tako [?\]: they made missclick because they are blond ?
blackhawk [1d\]: this is going to be interesting^^
]
;B[ce]
;W[ee]
;B[fd]C[unknown007 [5k\]: I like this game already
]
;W[cc]
;B[cf]C[unknown007 [5k\]: looks complicated 
eyeproblem [2k\]: taisha always good
unknown007 [5k\]: yes
blackhawk [1d\]: i wouldnt..but it is fu watching
YoungPro [-\]: g15
RGF2 [-\]: missclicks happend with progamers as well
RGF2 [-\]: ;-p
eyeproblem [2k\]: nlondes playing with buttons is fun too watch
]
;W[dg]
;B[fe]
;W[ef]
;B[cg]C[YoungPro [-\]: f14 f17 c12 b12 b11 
YoungPro [-\]: this joseki is always strange
]
;W[ff]C[unknown007 [5k\]: RGF2, we wont tolerate your excuses :) 
eyeproblem [2k\]: those who play this joseki are not strange?
YoungPro [-\]: f17 c12 b12 g15 f18 b16 c11 d12 b10 j16 j17 
]
;B[fc]
;W[ch]C[blackhawk [1d\]: really? that sequence is disgusting
]
;B[bh]C[Reeny [5k?\]: Breakfast will eat him for dinner
YoungPro [-\]: that sequence is the only way
YoungPro [-\]: however w just changed the order, but shouldn't matter much
YoungPro [-\]: he has to play g15 now
YoungPro [-\]: or maybe b16?
blackhawk [1d\]: who just developed this? aaargh!
unknown007 [5k\]: w not double hane?
Madgeh [3k\]: b11?
]
;W[bi]C[unknown007 [5k\]: ya man! 
]
;B[bc]
;W[bb]C[YoungPro [-\]: this hane shouldn't be good usually
YoungPro [-\]: this varation is good for b.. after a18
Madgeh [3k\]: I think he wants to make his d17 group alive while attacking c14 group and get sente
unknown007 [5k\]: a18 ko you mean?
unknown007 [5k\]: B a18?
YoungPro [-\]: no
YoungPro [-\]: b16 f18 g18 e18 a18 
blackhawk [1d\]: b16 b13 e18?
]
;B[bd]
;W[fb]
;B[gb]
;W[eb]C[Cool [2k\]: локально?? в каком городе
Cool [2k\]: а видео есть???
YoungPro [-\]: a18 now? why not hmm
blackhawk [1d\]: a18 g17?
unknown007 [5k\]: I would g14 now 
RGF2 [-\]: dear 5k, i would love to tolerate your regrets for your sexist jokes and thanks for broadcasting !!
YoungPro [-\]: a18 g17 d12 ?
YoungPro [-\]: a18 or c11 seems the only options
YoungPro [-\]: for sure not gonna defend g17 cutting point
unknown007 [5k\]: why not g14 YP?
unknown007 [5k\]: looks sente also
eyeproblem [2k\]: d11 also sente
YoungPro [-\]: it helps white
eyeproblem [2k\]: for w
RGF2 [-\]: В Петербурге, видео нет!
]
;B[dh]C[blackhawk [1d\]: may be d12 now?
eyeproblem [2k\]: muh
unknown007 [5k\]: so it is same as hane 
RGF2 [-\]: Наслаждайтесь трансляцией :)
unknown007 [5k\]: same idea I mean 
unknown007 [5k\]: d12 and g14 
YoungPro [-\]: where is the video?
]
;W[ci]
;B[gf]C[blackhawk [1d\]: a18 now
unknown007 [5k\]: yes
unknown007 [5k\]: so I was right YP about this idea 
blackhawk [1d\]: still preperation for a18
YoungPro [-\]: this is not going to be good for b
YoungPro [-\]: directly playing a18 was so easier
eyeproblem [2k\]: b ends in gote mh
unknown007 [5k\]: what if after a18 W would cut directly at g17?
YoungPro [-\]: I mean, why do you need to help white with d12
YoungPro [-\]: its better to play a18 and if white cut at g17 then you can offer trade, with no choice for w..
]
;W[fg]C[eyeproblem [2k\]: an offer w cant refure mh
eyeproblem [2k\]: refuse
eyeproblem [2k\]: *
blackhawk [1d\]: i guess b wants more^^
YoungPro [-\]: http://weiqi.tools/#y5lz5mz66y67z6qy6rz7by7cy7dy7ez7uz7vy7wz7xz8ez8fy8gz8hz8iz8xy90y91y92z93y9iy9ly9mz9n
unknown007 [5k\]: and now a18 looks ok, no?
eyeproblem [2k\]: not sure but b seems too die
YoungPro [-\]: the only move that exist is atari however hmm
blackhawk [1d\]: g13 give ladder to b after g17?
unknown007 [5k\]: YP this link is another atari, no?
unknown007 [5k\]: c11
YoungPro [-\]: yes but its strange
YoungPro [-\]: I mean, I thought that c11 or a18 is only choice
YoungPro [-\]: but there is not even a18 in the database hmm
unknown007 [5k\]: maybe because ladder they played that?
YoungPro [-\]: I dont think in 58 games all the ladders were bad
YoungPro [-\]: :)))
unknown007 [5k\]: why not? 
Cool [2k\]: w ++++
unknown007 [5k\]: or maybe it is trick play!
YoungPro [-\]: anway to me it still looks good for w
]
;B[cb]C[unknown007 [5k\]: if all 58 is one atari and this is another - it should be a trick play 
YoungPro [-\]: somehow d12 c11 g14 f13 , looks like helping white and vulgar style 
TAZZ [5k\]: what was  the result in Dinerstein's last game, please
sdg [2k\]: Win 
eyeproblem [2k\]: he won by resign
blackhawk [1d\]: what the hack? b misread that ladder for sure
sdg [2k\]: Diner
Cool [2k\]: Какие призы за первое место???
TAZZ [5k\]: thx interesting fuseki ;)
unknown007 [5k\]: TAZZ, which game you mean? 
TAZZ [5k\]: last round tonight
TAZZ [5k\]: evening
unknown007 [5k\]: against whom?
Reeny [5k?\]: I want to see his game with Artem
TAZZ [5k\]: Shika?
TAZZ [5k\]: cant remember lol
unknown007 [5k\]: :)))
RGF2 [-\]: Kachanovskyi
TAZZ [5k\]: no
]
;W[hb]C[unknown007 [5k\]: TAZZ, your are definately Dinerchtein's fan then :)
unknown007 [5k\]: you're*
Reeny [5k?\]: he's a great player, I read his book on new moves
unknown007 [5k\]: he is definetely great player
YoungPro [-\]: can we focus on this game? Other games and results can be found in RGF1-2-3 profiles.  
TAZZ [5k\]: yes have his autographed book ;")
Reeny [5k?\]: he also created the go test that you can take online to determine what type of player you are
YoungPro [-\]: h18 is one of the reasons I don't like d12 c11 g14 f13, now it looks even more weird
TAZZ [5k\]: great champion of russia
]
;B[hc]
;W[ga]C[eyeproblem [2k\]: tenuki at q17 xD
]
;B[ba]
;W[ic]
;B[hd]
;W[jb]C[blackhawk [1d\]: can someone explain c18?
]
;B[je]C[eyeproblem [2k\]: a black stone at an empty coordinate too threaten the white stone at the other coordinate
eyeproblem [2k\]: ^^
]
;W[fi]
;B[kc]
;W[gc]
;B[id]C[blackhawk [1d\]: j16
]
;W[jc]
;B[kb]C[eyeproblem [2k\]: white is already allive time for empty corner?
]
;W[qc]C[grgrq: b seems better?
]
;B[gd]C[eyeproblem [2k\]: b seems shattered
blackhawk [1d\]: w is so greedy
eyeproblem [2k\]: l16 would been greedy
]
;W[gb]C[blackhawk [1d\]: l16 only stupid
eyeproblem [2k\]: maybe
]
;B[oc]
;W[qf]C[blackhawk [1d\]: it is just a matter of time and w will regret r17 or needs to come back to j19
grgrq: l16 is nonsense because k16 is sente
blackhawk [1d\]: q15
eyeproblem [2k\]: mw
]
(;B[lm])
(;B[km]
;W[go]
;B[fl]
;W[hl]C[eyeproblem [2k\]: mw
]
;B[eo]
;W[fp]
;B[cn]
;W[bo]C[Maslov [3d\]: Кто каким цветом играет?
Kemist [-\]: Динерштейн белыми
]
;B[dk]C[Maslov [3d\]: Спасибо
Snowbars [5d\]: B seems dead 
]
;W[ej]
;B[bn]
;W[do]
;B[dn]
;W[bk]C[blackhawk [1d\]: g6 an option?
]
;B[hm]
;W[gm]
;B[gl]C[eyeproblem [2k\]: g6 still an option
eyeproblem [2k\]: killswitch turned on, killmode activated
]
;W[im]
;B[hn]
;W[gn]C[TAZZ [5k\]: was expecting h6, h9
eyeproblem [2k\]: white is on m4 areas door
]
;B[hk]
;W[il]
;B[ho]C[blackhawk [1d\]: j9?
]
;W[hp]
;B[jn]
;W[ik]C[Maslov [3d\]: difficult position
eyeproblem [-\]: for b it is hard weather condition now
]
;B[gj]
;W[ii]
;B[hi]C[blackhawk [1d\]: j12?
]
;W[hq]C[blackhawk [1d\]: h3?
blackhawk [1d\]: why?!
eyeproblem [-\]: big and for aji?
]
;B[gg]C[blackhawk [1d\]: but w will have a running group now and we remember that there is a ko for r3 group
eyeproblem [-\]: ko at r1?
blackhawk [1d\]: r2
eyeproblem [-\]: both same ko
blackhawk [1d\]: r1 r2 no ko
]
;W[fh]C[eyeproblem [-\]: r2 s2 s1 q2 q1 makes ko at r1-r2
]
;B[ih]
;W[ij]C[blackhawk [1d\]: thats what u mean..
]
;B[jh]C[eyeproblem [-\]: what do you mean than?
]
;W[lk]C[blackhawk [1d\]: just didnt u get mean the field at which the ko is played
eyeproblem [-\]: w can stay allive there without ko no
eyeproblem [-\]: yes?
]
;B[nl]C[Maslov [3d\]: E 9 big
]
;W[mj]
;B[ok]
;W[ki]
;B[mh]
;W[lm]
;B[ln]
;W[mm]
;B[mn]C[Maslov [3d\]: L8
]
;W[oj]
;B[kl]
;W[nh]
;B[pf]
;W[qe]
;B[pg]
;W[ng]
;B[lg]
;W[pj]
;B[qj]
;W[pk]
;B[pl]
;W[om]
;B[nm]
;W[ol]
;B[nk]
;W[ql]
;B[nj]
;W[ni]
;B[mi]
;W[oe]
;B[rl]
;W[ka]
;B[la]
;W[ja]
;B[jd]
;W[nc]
;B[rj]
;W[lf]
;B[kf]
;W[le]
;B[ld]
;W[jq]
;B[kq]
;W[kr]
;B[jr]
;W[ir]
;B[iq]
;W[ip]
;B[jo]
;W[jq]
;B[ia]
;W[ib]
;B[iq]
;W[oo]
;B[nn]
;W[jq]
;B[dj]
;W[di]
;B[iq]
(;W[sm])
(;W[sk]
;B[sj]
;W[jq]
;B[lq]
;W[nb]
;B[rg]
;W[js]
;B[ep]
;W[eq]
;B[fm]
;W[ek]
;B[gp]
;W[gr]
;B[dp]
;W[cq]
;B[fo]
;W[fq]
;B[dl]
;W[sm]
;B[pi]
;W[qr]
;B[se]C[indianayk [3d\]: o2?
]
;W[rd]
;B[mb]
;W[cl]
;B[gi]
;W[kg]
;B[kh]
;W[ke]
;B[kd]
;W[jf]C[dorareimu [2d\]: is white the Alexander that conquered Persia? 
]
;B[if]
;W[mg]
;B[lh]C[sh [5k\]: is b cheater
]
;W[ob]C[HateU4ever [6d?\]: yes b is
]
;B[lr]C[g7gj: looks like solid win 4 Alex
]
;W[or]
;B[nq]C[sh [5k\]: thx hateu
Pingu007 [2d\]: really?
]
;W[sl]C[Pingu007 [2d\]: i count b+
]
;B[rk]C[Dom [6d\]: not solid
]
;W[sn]C[Dom [6d\]: close
Pingu007 [2d\]: ok
]
;B[oi]
;W[pl]C[Dom [6d\]: i would bet on b
]
;B[oh]C[dorareimu [2d\]: Dom don't join this League?
gaos [1k?\]: isn't n13 huge?
Dom [6d\]: which?
gaos [1k?\]: 16...
]
;W[gh]
;B[hh]C[dorareimu [2d\]: oh...it is only for Russian? RGF < 
g7gj: just the placement in Russia
]
;W[me]C[Kemist [-\]: It is only pro
]
;B[pr]
;W[ps]
;B[ao]
;W[bp]C[sh [5k\]: isn't  breakfast from germany
dorareimu [2d\]: sound like some top level players in europe then? 
]
;B[md]
;W[nd]
;B[nf]
;W[of]
;B[og]
;W[mf]
;B[bg]C[g7gj: exactly
g7gj: this tournament only 4 european pros
]
;W[el]C[dorareimu [2d\]: o14 looks skillful
]
;B[em]
;W[bm]C[dorareimu [2d\]: kills 2 stones behind and save the eye point
dorareimu [2d\]: in sente
]
;B[pe]
;W[pd]
;B[nr]
;W[os]
;B[jg]
;W[am]
;B[an]C[HateU4ever [6d?\]: I count b slightly ahead
dorareimu [2d\]: b3 so big
]
;W[rf]
;B[sf]C[anton007 [-\]: now b can play b3
]
;W[qg]
;B[rh]C[dorareimu [2d\]: no :p
]
;W[mc]
;B[gp]
;W[gq]
;B[fn]
;W[io]C[aertan [3k\]: Is Alex b?
]
;B[in]
;W[gp]C[HateU4ever [6d?\]: no he is w
]
;B[cj]
;W[bj]C[Pingu007 [2d\]: w
]
;B[re]
;W[qd]C[aertan [3k\]: Ok doesn't show on my cellphone 
dorareimu [2d\]: o1
]
;B[ai]
(;W[sc])
(;W[sd]
;B[sg]
;W[aj]C[Adooo [1k\]: b3?
]
;B[ah]
;W[ne]
;B[kf]C[anton007 [-\]: why not b3?
]
;W[fk]C[anton007 [-\]: 2 points sente
]
;B[fj]C[dorareimu [2d\]: o1 bigger 
]
;W[ei]C[deruslesto [7k\]: same reason as not d2
dorareimu [2d\]: :P
]
;B[gk]
;W[ab]
;B[ac]C[songokuss3 [-\]: w+ now
]
;W[ap]
;B[cp]
;W[bq]C[qgo [5k\]: is there a link to the tournament ? someone please ?
]
;B[ns]
;W[qs]
;B[ls]C[leachy [2k\]: oh surprised w is ahead....just assumed he's been behind ever since j9 was lost
Pingu007 [2d\]: http://epgc2017.gofederation.ru/?page_id=21
]
;W[ks]C[qgo [5k\]: tx pingu
]
;B[da]
;W[ea]
;B[aa]
;W[db]
;B[ca]
;W[na]
;B[dm]
;W[ck]
;B[lb]
;W[ma]C[blackhawk [1d\]: w+1.5
]
;B[lc]
;W[cm]C[Kemist [-\]: http://en.gofederation.ru/tournaments/600650861 - no much info though
aertan [3k\]: More
Nata [?\]: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y5-D_eDQW7ezyXmWsicdPMmwq3uFHjjzxfZ9U_mW5DU/edit
aertan [3k\]: W + komi
anton007 [-\]: why w+
Pingu007 [2d\]: 62 for w 69 for b?
YoungPro [-\]: isn't it b+5?
Dom [6d\]: B+
HateU4ever [6d?\]: b 79 w 73.5 in my count
anton007 [-\]: b+ lol
RGF2 [-\]: W+8.5
YoungPro [-\]: what
Pingu007 [2d\]: ??
KBAC [2d\]: yep
Dom [6d\]: lolol
anton007 [-\]: lol
OneMoveMan [-\]: loool
YoungPro [-\]: what?
sh [5k\]: lol
anton007 [-\]: what
YoungPro [-\]: did rgf2 used SE?
aertan [3k\]: How do you count young pro
Dom [6d\]: seems like
Maslov [3d\]: Lol!!!
indianayk [3d\]: what is komi?
YoungPro [-\]: did the players counted?
g7gj: no they just used SE
Kemist [-\]: 7.5 chinese i guess
g7gj: its easyer
YoungPro [-\]: it has to be b+
indianayk [3d\]: i counted b wins by 1.5 with 6.5 komi
aertan [3k\]: No
fuchur [1k\]: chinese rules always fun
newidea [2k\]: it`s Russia, Russians win
HateU4ever [6d?\]: even with chinese rules it's w 181,5 b 187 ??
OneMoveMan [-\]: hahahaha is b+ o.o
JG [2d\]: dinerstein with some tricks again
Dom [6d\]: oh yea the russian rule! :D
YoungPro [-\]: it is b+ lol
anton007 [-\]: +
Pingu007 [2d\]: i don't get it
leachy [2k\]: super intense game
HateU4ever [6d?\]: RGF2: are you sure of the result ? Check by yourself on kgs it's B+5,5
BraKet [2k\]: so it's over?
aertan [3k\]: 75.5 on w
YoungPro [-\]: its not, they made mistake of the counting
leachy [2k\]: score tool says B+6.5
aertan [3k\]: 67 on b
RGF2 [-\]: kgs is not able to count by chinese rules
leachy [2k\]: chinese rules....SE can't do it
JG [2d\]: my SE says w+8.5
JG [2d\]: my bad
Aliquid [4d\]: kgs se says W+8.5
Pingu007 [2d\]: se can't get it right with chinese rules
RGF2 [-\]: so b won 5.5
leachy [2k\]: go Options -
Dom [6d\]: kgs is able
HateU4ever [6d?\]: don't use SE but tools and counting
BraKet [2k\]: whaaaaaaaaaat is going on
Dom [6d\]: se is not
Pingu007 [2d\]: ah!
Madgeh [3k\]: it looks like b+
anton007 [-\]: Lol
anton007 [-\]: b won
leachy [2k\]: Options -> View offline -> Tool -> Score
Dom [6d\]: so 1-1-1-1-1-1
leachy [2k\]: so the intuition that b was ahead after w lost j9 was correct
RGF2 [-\]: not able. if there is chinese rules in the settings it shoes 8.5 ti W
JG [2d\]: Rule Set; chinese
BraKet [2k\]: thx leachy
RGF2 [-\]: you may check if you want!
blackhawk [1d\]: i alsocounted b+ 4.5 with 7.5 komi
Dom [6d\]: kgs is able, se is not able
unknown007 [5k\]: RGF2 you are most confusing broadcaster ever
YoungPro [-\]: SE just cannot count in chinese rules... simple
HateU4ever [6d?\]: Using Se it's says w+8,5, but going to options, view offline, tools then score you have the correct result in chinese rules
YoungPro [-\]: b wins 5,5
Kemist [-\]: You aren't suppose to anounce the result using SE
blackhawk [1d\]: did b officially win?
RGF2 [-\]: 5k you didnt still say thanks ))
indianayk [3d\]: b 80 points and w 66
Maslov [3d\]: W67
g7gj: this broadcaster is broken)
Maslov [3d\]: B80
Aliquid [4d\]: what is the score that players counted?
HateU4ever [6d?\]: Brokecaster ?
Aliquid [4d\]: Are they done counting yet?
g7gj: ye
blackhawk [1d\]: probably they're done
BraKet [2k\]: so they all are at 1 point?!
RGF2 [-\]: see upper B+5.5 :)
KBAC [2d\]: clap clap
BraKet [2k\]: jesus guys, the man did a mistake so what
BraKet [2k\]: thx for broadcasting RGF2
Shinichi56 [-\]: gg
BraKet [2k\]: don't mind trolls
Aliquid [4d\]: so all players have 1 win now
HateU4ever [6d?\]: Anyway thanks you for broadcasting :) just remind to not use SE :)
BraKet [2k\]: when will they play again?
Janisan [3k\]: Ty for casting!
BraKet [2k\]: anyone knows?
deruslesto [7k\]: when will be next matches? 
leachy [2k\]: thanks, RGF2 ;)
RGF2 [-\]: thanks you too!
RGF2 [-\]: have a good evening!
])))))